Just one preface is needed here; Derek was a hard core tennis player in High School and has since taught his wife to do the same...Rob and me, not so much. Rob has played about 5 times and I've played twice, now. So I'm betting you can guess the outcome. We got SPANKED!! (sorry, we don't have a picture of Danielle handin' it to me, D & D took the pictures and they didn't send us one, blame them :))